Julas Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Zwracam się do was z pytaniem:Jaka jest przepisowa broń boczna oficerów(żołnierzy??) Bundeswehry Z góry dziękuję za informacje Pozdrawiam :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brymer Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 KSK używa H&K USP - reszta pewnie tez, albo by chciała ;)) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julas Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Dzięki za odpowiedź ale chcę mieć pewność co do broni bocznej w "szarym" wojsku. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brymer Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 hmmm wg mnie to P8 jest wersją USP - tyle że przyjętą na stan Bw (stąd nazwa) i różniącą się szczegółami, min. lufą - w USP jest poligonalna a w P8 gwintowana . znawcą niestety nie jestem .... może ktoś kompetentny ??? Remov ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catch22 Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Tu macie listę wszystkich pistoletów powtarzalnych w uzyciu przez BW/jednostkach spec/policji i Grenzschutzu w czasach powojennych(oznaczenia kodowe P - jak pistole, dalej MP jak Maschinen Pistole, G jak Gewehr, SG jak Scharfschutzegewehr) włącznie z wycofanymi - oficjalnie służbowym pistoletem jednostek liniowych jest P8 (od 1994), ale jak widać wciąż dużo Walterów P38. Handguns Designation: Pistole 31 – P31 Common Name: Modell 200 Calibre: 5.6×16mmR Origin: Hämmerli AG, Lenzburg, Switzerland. Use: Armed forces: special service. OBSOLETE. Details: Target pistol. Designation: Pistole 11 – P11 Common Name: P11 Calibre: 7.62×36mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Armed forces: special service (1975-). In use with Kampfschwimmer and KSK. Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9. Details: Five-barrelled pepperbox-style weapon for underwater use. Designation: Pistole 21 – P21 Common Name: PPK Calibre: 7.65×17mmSR Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm; Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin (MANURHIN), Mulhouse-Bourtzwiler, France (licensed). Use: Armed forces: limited service. Formerly in use with pilots and military police. OBSOLETE. Police forces: limited service. Formerly in use with police forces. OBSOLETE. Designation: Pistole 22 – P22 Common Name: PP Calibre: 7.65×17mmSR Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm; Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin (MANURHIN), Mulhouse-Bourtzwiler, France (licensed). Use: Police forces: limited service. Formerly in use with police forces. OBSOLETE. Designation: Pistole 9 Maritim – P9M Common Name: Glock 17 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Glock GmbH, Deutsch-Wagram, Austria. Use: Police forces: special service (1993-). In use with GSG9 (250 acquired), ZUZ, SEK Dresden, SEK Göppingen, and SEK München. Details: Underwater use possible. Common Name: Glock 26 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Glock GmbH, Deutsch-Wagram, Austria. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9, ZUZ, and SEK Berlin. Designation: Pistole 7 – P7 Common Name: PSP Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with GSG9 (1980-), BKA, state police of Baden-Württemberg, Bayern, Niedersachsen, Sachsen, SEK Göppingen. Common Name: P7M8 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Armed forces: limited service (1985-). In use with Feldjäger. Police forces: general service. In use with BKA, state police of Baden-Württemberg, Bayern, Niedersachsen, Sachsen, SEK Göppingen. Common Name: P7M13 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK München and SEK Nürnberg. Designation: Pistole 8 – P8 Common Name: USP Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Bundeswehr: general service (1994-). 20.720 acquired. Designation: Pistole 8 Combat – P8 Combat Common Name: USP V3 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Bundeswehr: special service (1997-). In use with KSK and Kampfschwimmer. Designation: Pistole 10 – P10 Common Name: USP Compact Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (1997-). In use with state police of Bremen, Saarland, Sachsen, and Thüringen. Common Name: P2000 V1 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: special service (2002-). 400 acquired by SEK Göppingen and other special units in Baden-Württemberg. Common Name: P2000 V2 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (2002-). 10,200 acquired by state police of Niedersachsen, replacing P7. Common Name: P2000 V5 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (2002-). 25,000 acquired by state police of Baden-Württemberg, replacing P5. Common Name: P2000SK V2 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Police forces: general service (2004-). 5,000 acquired by state police of Niedersachsen, replacing P7. Designation: Pistole 2 – P2 Common Name: P210-4 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Schweizerische Industrie-Gesellschaft (SIG), Neuhausen, Switzerland. Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with BGS. OBSOLETE. Designation: Pistole 6 – P6 Common Name: P225 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with BGS, BKA, Bundeszollpolizei, state police of Berlin (10,000 in 1984), Hamburg, Hessen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Sachsen-Anhalt, and Schleswig-Holstein. Common Name: P226 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Armed forces: special service. In use with Fernspäher and Kampfschwimmer. Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe, PSK Berlin, SEK Berlin, SEK Bielefeld, SEK Köln, SEK Dortmund, SEK Düsseldorf, SEK Essen, SEK Frankfurt, and SEK Münster. Common Name: P228 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe and state police of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Common Name: P229 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe. Common Name: P239 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: SIG-Sauer GmbH, Eckernförde. Use: Police forces: limited service. In use with female officers in Brandenburg. Designation: Pistole 1 – P1 Common Name: P38 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm. Use: Armed forces: general service (1955-). Standard sidearm. Being replaced by H&K P8 since 1994, but still in widespread use. Designation: Pistole 5 – P5 Common Name: P5 Calibre: 9×19mm Origin: Carl Walther GmbH, Ulm. Use: Police forces: general service. In use with state police of Rheinland-Pfalz and Baden-Württemberg (being replaced by P2000 V5 since late 2002). Common Name: Model 38 Bodyguard Calibre: 9×29mmR Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with BKA Sicherungsgruppe. Common Name: Model 649 Bodyguard Calibre: 9×29mmR Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with SEK Dresden, SEK München, and SEK Nürnberg. Common Name: Model 19 Combat Magnum Calibre: 9×33mmR Origin: Smith & Wesson (S&W), Springfield, USA. Use: Police forces: special service. In use with GSG9, MEK Hamburg, and SEK Göppingen. Designation: Pistole 12 – P12 Common Name: USP Tactical Calibre: 11.43×23mm Origin: Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf. Use: Armed forces: special service (2000-). In use with Kampfschwimmer and KSK. Details: Detachable sound-suppressor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julas Posted August 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Jeszcze raz bardzo, bardzo dziękuję za odpowiedzi zwłaszcza Winstonowi.Teraz już wiem, że bronią boczną w BW jest H&K P8. Pozdrawiam i Dzięki :!: :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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