M90_FFS Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Update: 1 KAMIZELKA MODUŁOWA KONTRAKTOR (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 4 Ładownica na 2 magazynki do karabinka G-36 (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 1 Bluza UP wz.93 PANTERA (, ) 1 Spodnie UP wz.93 PANTERA (, ) 1 Pokrowiec na pojemnik z wodą (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 1 Worek na odzysk M-2 (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 1 Kieszeń na radiostację RADMOR 3501 (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 1 Kieszeń medyczna I.K.M.Z. (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 2 Kieszeń uniwersalna, mała (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 1 Ładownica na 3 magazynki pistoletowe (Taśma 20mm, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) 1 Pas OPERACYJNY (, Cordura Polska - PANTERA wz.93) Weaponry: 1 WE G36K, 8 mags + 1 in the gun. 1 Glock 17 with 3 extra mags & safariland 6005. Also have an USP.45 and a 6004 missing on the pictures: Hatch green kneepads Comtacs Helmet Edited January 28, 2011 by M90_FFS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piasek89 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Pardon me. There is nothing similiar to Grom... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viamortis Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Helmet You got it ready? It's not the easiest part... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M90_FFS Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 what you guys says is okay and not has been proven wrong. They STILL use WZ.93 and theres is pictures of it. They are a Team with great freedom in gear use. Most recent photo. Both are GROM Those pictures was taken under the time the thread started to now ther you guys did say that the used SUEZ all the time. which is wrong the use it mostly due the environment in Afghanistan/iraq was not suited for WZ.93. Suez is and was far superior in that conditions. Still, i wont use it here in sweden for now. Suez is in my plans but not this year. If GROM would do a mission in sweden they would use WZ.93 due to the forest and environment as acording to helmets Mich 2000 & mich 2002 does the trick P.S. I was thinking to a more Formoza style loadout due the G36 and you have would noticed that if you had read the last page D.S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yahalom Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 This vest is not ok :P This pouches are not ok :P G36 is not ok :P MIWO uniform is also not ok :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M90_FFS Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) still, Formza style loadout. And just for wondering why wouldent miwo stuff be okey when the guys made several things especially for GROM? Edited January 28, 2011 by M90_FFS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yahalom Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) guys made several things especially for GROM? for 1PSK ( MIWO guys serve in PSK) Edited January 28, 2011 by Arafat (KSK) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zombie_snake Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 still, Formza style loadout. Different vest, P226 instead of glock/usp, and KSK rail with Aimpoint instead scope on G36 :wink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M90_FFS Posted January 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) PSK1 one dont use P90. still p90 mag pouches avablie. and other sources including Miwo say other things when i asked. still THINK, the pictures i posted proves that the statments in the begining of this thread was wrong an i had the right information. everything aint pictured or will be. Grom are Using Miwo stuff, thats a fact. cant prove it right now but niether you. i only have to go on the words said by the man on the ground. i have p226 i have glock i have USP so the sidearm is not really a problem. Acording the G36 Rail. i dont like the rail and Aimpoint and i HAD a picture that had a G36 scope And a polish soldier holding it. Claimed to be Formoza guy. cant get it anymore though -.- Edited January 29, 2011 by M90_FFS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piasek89 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Your statements about our native SF seems to be revelation ! On the other hand, it's a pitty they're not reflection of facts... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M90_FFS Posted January 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 you guys dont provide legit sources of your statments either so.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yahalom Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 lol, Ok, if you want to live in your "own world", it will be ok. Don't worry, we will never write here again :hahaha: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellMaker666 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) Neither you. Prove that we are wrong but with photos in which we'll be able to see GROM using HK-416 with wz.93 uniform and MICH helmet at the same time. It's your imagination of GROM unit, isn't it? According to pictures you have already posted, first and second shows Bushmasters so they are clearly out of date. Especially the second one, it is impossible that it was taken during existence of this thread. Why? There are no more Polish troops in IRAQ, it isn't Afghanistan too 'cause it isn't even that style of architecture. MIWO probably is in use but pouches, not vests - G-Unit has far better vests than MIWO's. Don't be so stubborn, we are trying to help you with the best reenactment of GROM. Edited January 29, 2011 by HellMaker666 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zombie_snake Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) Generally if you want to use wz.93, you're stuck with M4 carbine. HK-416's were bought after the introduction of Kombinezon Ćwiczebny in SUEZ camo. If you refer to the photos in which GROM wears wz. 93, those are old photos since nowadays Suez/Multicam is the basic camouflage for all units under the Polish Special Forces Command, even on the parades. I do not neglect the fact that 1PSK or MJDS use the wz.93 occasionally, but so far there was NO PICTURE of GROM operators with HK-416 and wz.93 at the same time. If you have such photo, please share with us. We will be grateful. As HellMaker mentioned GROM doesn't use MIWO vests. As far as I'm concerned they sre using NFM vests, but may use the MIWO pouches. BTW if you want to talk about MJDS, let me invite you to the proper thread :) Edited January 29, 2011 by zombie_snake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viamortis Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 As far as I'm concerned they sre using NFM vests And some of individual choice, but I still doubt it'd be Miwo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piasek89 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 And some of individual choice, but I still doubt it'd be Miwo. Currahee vests - confirmed. :happy: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellMaker666 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Prove it :icon_biggrin: with a picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zombie_snake Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I assume he's talking about this one http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/20797/08925160.jpeg ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viamortis Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Proofs are for those of small faith... :wink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piasek89 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Prove it :icon_biggrin: with a picture. I assume he's talking about this one http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/20797/08925160.jpeg ? Point for me :cool: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M90_FFS Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 1 This thread started: Napisano 04 styczeń 2008 - 23:02 Those pictures i posted wa taken from that period (2008 - now) to now 2 the last set up i posted has little to do with GROM as stated. But theres still usage of the old uniform no matter what you guys say untill you can give a 100% secure source that proves my sources (which claims to be X-operator) wrong. Which iam still waiting for.. 3, several pictures i had is no more due dead links AND a stolen computer :/ 4, have somone even been i sweden? played airsoft in our woods? no? WZ.93 IS far more superior than Suez so IF the operators would use Suez here under an operation they would kill them self due stupidty.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Szaszłyk Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ad. 1 - Which pcitures? Those with Bushy M4? They're older. Ad. 2 - Yes, it might be still in use but in specific condition. But in the field they are using Suez patterned cammies. You have just one source of info which CLAIMS to be an ex-GROM. Are you 100% sure his a BTDT? Ad. 4 - Are we suposed to invade Sweden? A small revange?:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellMaker666 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) Still remember 1655 :wink: Edited January 31, 2011 by HellMaker666 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yahalom Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 :hahaha: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M90_FFS Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 WTF XD :biggrin: :icon_eek2: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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